1 Corinthians 14:26-33 has the order of the church gathering. There is no leader and it is centered around the Lord's supper. One man will get up and offer a song or a Bible reading with explanation, each one as they pray are led by the Lord. If one speaks another can get up and evaluate what is said, others can correct wrong doctrine or expound further on what others say, using the Word.
The Brethren still do this. They have a man who is chosen to speak for the Bible lesson after the worship of the Lord's Supper. It may be a different man every week or the same man who has a series of messages. No one is paid and no one is in charge. However there are elders who make decisions together but they must all agree before anything is implemented.
I actually heard a young pastor say he needs to protect his pulpit. First of all, there were no pulpits in the first century church and one man would never be allowed to dictate what is being said or who is saying it.
This is the mentality of the modern church, they feel they must have a leader who "keeps things under control."
In the Brethren it is recognized that no one man is in control, the elders, plural make decisions and only after prayer and full agreement.
The "prophesying" as mentioned in verse 3 is not future telling but rather expounding on the Word that is already in the Bible.
This is the Biblical model of the church gathering, it is being violated times thousands every week around this country. There is much error in the body because the pastor is not corrected openly in the gathering, so many leave the service believing everything one man says and thinks because he has been trained by men in seminary, he is the authority.
There are no "trained" men in the first century church, they have been led by the Holy Spirit as they read the Word. The training in Bible school and seminary never existed in Bible times and teach many wrong things as the men who go to them believe what they hear and take it back to their churches. This is man's idea of how to help God out, because they didn't trust the Holy Spirit to do it well.
Seminary at this time in history is corrupting, it leads people to believe you cannot know truth unless you go to one of these institutions. The fact is, this is nothing more than the mentality I ran into as a Catholic. Only those who have been "educated" by other men can know, everyone else has to just believe them.
One way to control people is to proclaim you are the only one who can know and then intimidate them if they attempt to challenge or correct you. This mentality is not of God and should be avoided.
In the comments section I will place the scripture that pertains to this post.
1 Corinthians 14:26-33
"26 What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.
27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret;
28 but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God.
29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment.
30 But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent.
31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted;
32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets;
33 for God is not a God of confusion but of [a]peace, as in all the churches of the saints."
Tuesday, March 27, 2018
Community Schooling will Destroy Your Family
Many years ago, back in the day, parents had charge of community schooling, they vetted and hired the teachers and were the school board in each community.
Sadly government, whoever they were, decided that if schools could be monitored and run by the "experts", they could train the teachers to influence the thinking of the children, not how to think and what is truth, but "what" to think.
This came in very subtly as the teachers began to be more concerned about their pay check than they were about truth. They began to indoctrinate the children in liberal thinking. Now we have children who mock the wisdom of their parents and defend the teachers when the two do not agree.
This is why Christian parents need to keep their children out of those government schools. The parents have lost the control over what their children learn. The teachers in those schools have the childrenm day in and day out, longer even than the parents have them.
This was a plot from the beginning of the public school system. We don't see in Scripture a model of "public school" in which the children go off to be educated by what amounts to strangers. These strangers were not vetted by the parents, but approved of by liberal boards that the parents had no control over.
Children are being indoctrinated every day now in the vein of liberal thinking. They are pressured by teachers and their peers to "group think", that is, not to think outside the box of the liberal teachers. Children are not strong enough emotionally to stand up against groups of people, they are still tender and forming their ideas and strengths.
When we were growing up, we were taught to think for ourselves, making decisions from evaluating right from wrong and deciding based on that. Children in public schools now are discouraged from thinking for themselves, even mocked if they do not agree with the rest of the students or the teacher.
If you want to be the primary influence in your child's life then you must keep them home with you. If you want them to go the way of the world put them in those government schools and watch the deterioration of the family as a unit.
Just Sayin!!!!
Sadly government, whoever they were, decided that if schools could be monitored and run by the "experts", they could train the teachers to influence the thinking of the children, not how to think and what is truth, but "what" to think.
This came in very subtly as the teachers began to be more concerned about their pay check than they were about truth. They began to indoctrinate the children in liberal thinking. Now we have children who mock the wisdom of their parents and defend the teachers when the two do not agree.
This is why Christian parents need to keep their children out of those government schools. The parents have lost the control over what their children learn. The teachers in those schools have the childrenm day in and day out, longer even than the parents have them.
This was a plot from the beginning of the public school system. We don't see in Scripture a model of "public school" in which the children go off to be educated by what amounts to strangers. These strangers were not vetted by the parents, but approved of by liberal boards that the parents had no control over.
Children are being indoctrinated every day now in the vein of liberal thinking. They are pressured by teachers and their peers to "group think", that is, not to think outside the box of the liberal teachers. Children are not strong enough emotionally to stand up against groups of people, they are still tender and forming their ideas and strengths.
When we were growing up, we were taught to think for ourselves, making decisions from evaluating right from wrong and deciding based on that. Children in public schools now are discouraged from thinking for themselves, even mocked if they do not agree with the rest of the students or the teacher.
If you want to be the primary influence in your child's life then you must keep them home with you. If you want them to go the way of the world put them in those government schools and watch the deterioration of the family as a unit.
Just Sayin!!!!
Christian Worship is for Believers
God never told us to invite non-believers to our worship, they should not be there. We are to "go into the world" preaching and teaching and when the unsaved become saved then they will come in as believer and followers of Christ. If a non-believer happens to come, then probably he is open to the truth, but we should not be inviting unsaved friends who ultimately learn the Christian lingo, begin acting like Christians but are not born again, they have not been changed from the inside, so their acting on the outside does not remain. Therefore they corrupt the gathering with their worldly ideas and false persona. This is where the apostate church is today, it got that way because many people compromised the truth to placate the unbeliever.
The apostate church violated more scripture than it obeyed, in the process is it no longer a gathering of Christlike people indwelt by the Holy Spirit, but rather a social gathering that capitulates to the ungodly thinking of the unbelievers who are present. Now, it is likely we have more unsaved people in the "Christian" churches than we have saved ones. Therefore most gatherings, especially if they are large ones, will be accepting many wicked sins within their group.
2 Timothy 3:1-5 God warned us about these people and tells us to stay away from them.
"1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."
Beware of false doctrine based on psychology that fosters guilt in us for not obeying their ideas, the ideas that negate the purposes of the Word of God.
Just recently I was chastised by a believer for asserting that we need to be bold and completely honest with the non-believer. The only phrase I heard, in a mild form of rage, was that "its all about love." When I asked the question, "what is love"?, the rage escalated and there was a refusal to answer. My guess is that most people who use cliches don't know the meaning of those cliches. These cliches sound good so they are embraced, that's all they have, meaning is not very important, only the right words to make us sound compassionate. Interesting too that the one raging at me didn't have that love he so adamantly declared, for me.
It is not very compassionate to make an unbeliever feel good about themselves, only to have them go into the fires of hell at the end of this life. Wouldn't it be more compassionate to tell the truth with urgency and watch them go to heaven later?
Every cliche in the book will be thrown at us from pretenders. When appearances are the goal, then anything that goes any deeper than superficiality will be summarily rejected. Anything that makes someone accountable or shows a need for brokenness over sin, will be rejected and attacked.
2 Timothy 4:4-5
"4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry."
The apostate church violated more scripture than it obeyed, in the process is it no longer a gathering of Christlike people indwelt by the Holy Spirit, but rather a social gathering that capitulates to the ungodly thinking of the unbelievers who are present. Now, it is likely we have more unsaved people in the "Christian" churches than we have saved ones. Therefore most gatherings, especially if they are large ones, will be accepting many wicked sins within their group.
2 Timothy 3:1-5 God warned us about these people and tells us to stay away from them.
"1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."
Beware of false doctrine based on psychology that fosters guilt in us for not obeying their ideas, the ideas that negate the purposes of the Word of God.
Just recently I was chastised by a believer for asserting that we need to be bold and completely honest with the non-believer. The only phrase I heard, in a mild form of rage, was that "its all about love." When I asked the question, "what is love"?, the rage escalated and there was a refusal to answer. My guess is that most people who use cliches don't know the meaning of those cliches. These cliches sound good so they are embraced, that's all they have, meaning is not very important, only the right words to make us sound compassionate. Interesting too that the one raging at me didn't have that love he so adamantly declared, for me.
It is not very compassionate to make an unbeliever feel good about themselves, only to have them go into the fires of hell at the end of this life. Wouldn't it be more compassionate to tell the truth with urgency and watch them go to heaven later?
Every cliche in the book will be thrown at us from pretenders. When appearances are the goal, then anything that goes any deeper than superficiality will be summarily rejected. Anything that makes someone accountable or shows a need for brokenness over sin, will be rejected and attacked.
2 Timothy 4:4-5
"4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry."
There are Warnings and Clues Look for Them
There have been two others I have heard today referring to the apostasy of the church, its as though the prophets and prophetesses are warning the people but the people are not listening.
We have many prophetesses and prophets still here in our land, they are the born again believers who have been commissioned by God to speak the truth and live righteous lives.
By prophets and prophetesses I do not mean future telling, but those born again believers who are rightly dividing the word and warning of what is coming and urging people to get back to the Word of God as their standard. These people are also speaking and writing frequently about the rapture as well as the gospel of Jesus Christ for those who do not yet know Him.
We no longer need future revelations, we have all we need in the Bible. Its all right there, nothing more is needed. We can watch today as those prophesies from the patriarchs are being fulfilled before our very eyes.
I don't know about you but it is exciting to me while at the same time grievous that so many people who attend churches and family members are clueless as to truth of the Word or the order of the Church gathering.
There are many too, who would consider themselves conservative, who are fixated on having an earthly king. We saw what happened to Israel when they chose a King over God to rule them. When we have Christ is doesn't matter what the government is doing we will follow only Christ., our leader is Jesus Christ. Nothing the government does changes how we operate as believers, we still follow Christ first and our governmental laws when they do not violate the Word of God.
If the people of a nation are not focused on Christ they will want their safety to come through a king. We are living in wicked times, the people are evil so the leaders we will have are also evil. Even the one we think will get us some of what we want, that is "peace and safety."
Just because we think some good things are happening, that does not mean that righteousness is prevailing, just the opposite. All this conservatism is an illusion concocted by those who needed the "Christian" voting block to participate. All those in the planning stages of the plot knew that if they could fool those Christians into believing they would get them what they wanted, they would be able to sway the vote in their direction.
I was involved in politics for a few years, I know how the politicians think, I know the way they manipulate the people, it is positively clever. By the way, there are many clues that are ignored when the tricksters work their wiles, but the people like what is said so they ignore the clues. Seeing the clues takes discernment and critical thinking, nothing said can be taken at face value. Remember words are nothing, they are easily expressed, it is in the actions that one is proven to be righteous.
Our nation will only be a righteous nation through changed hearts of the people. When a nation gets to the point in which they accept the decrees of their leaders to defend sin in every form, then we have lost the nation.
The very people we think are righteous leaders are not at all, they have allowed pornography to be so entrenched that the United States is the leader of the distribution of it for the entire world. We have the blood of 65 million babies on the land and counting, as our courts have defended and allowed abortion. Notice something, only less than half the people are against abortion in our country and many of the other half have comforted those who do have abortions.
If we have some godly leaders but most are not in our government system, then we can surmise that most of the people of the United States are wicked. Those who are godly cannot get anything done because they are outnumbered. We have seen this in church gatherings too, in which the leaders are apostate, the one who calls it out is the one who is driven out.
With the United States becoming worse morally we cannot expect the leaders to do better. The voters drive the leaders, they create the climate for the government. Even those that do not vote drive the government by letting the few make the voting decisions. In short, most people in this country are not interested in righteousness, only in getting what they want, that is "peace, security and prosperity."
Jeremiah 7:26-28 "…26 "Yet they did not listen to Me or incline their ear, but stiffened their neck; they did more evil than their fathers. 27 "You shall speak all these words to them, but they will not listen to you; and you shall call to them, but they will not answer you. 28 "You shall say to them, 'This is the nation that did not obey the voice of the LORD their God or accept correction; truth has perished and has been cut off from their mouth.…"
Let's recap a little to get perspective, abortion, pornography, prostitution, teaching of sex in schools rather than parents privately instructing their own children, filthy movies on television and at the theaters have poisoned the mind of two generations as they indoctrinate the watchers into a particular mindset of self worship and pleasure. Then there is the foolishness of coddling the young people to think they should have everything they want without having to earn it or wait for it.
We are living in wicked times fraught with self will, harshness toward those who speak truth, lack of love while filled with a desire for personal aggrandizement.
Isaiah 30:9-11 "…9 For this is a rebellious people, false sons, Sons who refuse to listen To the instruction of the LORD; 10 Who say to the seers, "You must not see visions"; And to the prophets, "You must not prophesy to us what is right, Speak to us pleasant words, Prophesy illusions. 11 "Get out of the way, turn aside from the path, Let us hear no more about the Holy One of Israel."
We have many prophetesses and prophets still here in our land, they are the born again believers who have been commissioned by God to speak the truth and live righteous lives.
By prophets and prophetesses I do not mean future telling, but those born again believers who are rightly dividing the word and warning of what is coming and urging people to get back to the Word of God as their standard. These people are also speaking and writing frequently about the rapture as well as the gospel of Jesus Christ for those who do not yet know Him.
We no longer need future revelations, we have all we need in the Bible. Its all right there, nothing more is needed. We can watch today as those prophesies from the patriarchs are being fulfilled before our very eyes.
I don't know about you but it is exciting to me while at the same time grievous that so many people who attend churches and family members are clueless as to truth of the Word or the order of the Church gathering.
There are many too, who would consider themselves conservative, who are fixated on having an earthly king. We saw what happened to Israel when they chose a King over God to rule them. When we have Christ is doesn't matter what the government is doing we will follow only Christ., our leader is Jesus Christ. Nothing the government does changes how we operate as believers, we still follow Christ first and our governmental laws when they do not violate the Word of God.
If the people of a nation are not focused on Christ they will want their safety to come through a king. We are living in wicked times, the people are evil so the leaders we will have are also evil. Even the one we think will get us some of what we want, that is "peace and safety."
Just because we think some good things are happening, that does not mean that righteousness is prevailing, just the opposite. All this conservatism is an illusion concocted by those who needed the "Christian" voting block to participate. All those in the planning stages of the plot knew that if they could fool those Christians into believing they would get them what they wanted, they would be able to sway the vote in their direction.
I was involved in politics for a few years, I know how the politicians think, I know the way they manipulate the people, it is positively clever. By the way, there are many clues that are ignored when the tricksters work their wiles, but the people like what is said so they ignore the clues. Seeing the clues takes discernment and critical thinking, nothing said can be taken at face value. Remember words are nothing, they are easily expressed, it is in the actions that one is proven to be righteous.
Our nation will only be a righteous nation through changed hearts of the people. When a nation gets to the point in which they accept the decrees of their leaders to defend sin in every form, then we have lost the nation.
The very people we think are righteous leaders are not at all, they have allowed pornography to be so entrenched that the United States is the leader of the distribution of it for the entire world. We have the blood of 65 million babies on the land and counting, as our courts have defended and allowed abortion. Notice something, only less than half the people are against abortion in our country and many of the other half have comforted those who do have abortions.
If we have some godly leaders but most are not in our government system, then we can surmise that most of the people of the United States are wicked. Those who are godly cannot get anything done because they are outnumbered. We have seen this in church gatherings too, in which the leaders are apostate, the one who calls it out is the one who is driven out.
With the United States becoming worse morally we cannot expect the leaders to do better. The voters drive the leaders, they create the climate for the government. Even those that do not vote drive the government by letting the few make the voting decisions. In short, most people in this country are not interested in righteousness, only in getting what they want, that is "peace, security and prosperity."
Jeremiah 7:26-28 "…26 "Yet they did not listen to Me or incline their ear, but stiffened their neck; they did more evil than their fathers. 27 "You shall speak all these words to them, but they will not listen to you; and you shall call to them, but they will not answer you. 28 "You shall say to them, 'This is the nation that did not obey the voice of the LORD their God or accept correction; truth has perished and has been cut off from their mouth.…"
Let's recap a little to get perspective, abortion, pornography, prostitution, teaching of sex in schools rather than parents privately instructing their own children, filthy movies on television and at the theaters have poisoned the mind of two generations as they indoctrinate the watchers into a particular mindset of self worship and pleasure. Then there is the foolishness of coddling the young people to think they should have everything they want without having to earn it or wait for it.
We are living in wicked times fraught with self will, harshness toward those who speak truth, lack of love while filled with a desire for personal aggrandizement.
Isaiah 30:9-11 "…9 For this is a rebellious people, false sons, Sons who refuse to listen To the instruction of the LORD; 10 Who say to the seers, "You must not see visions"; And to the prophets, "You must not prophesy to us what is right, Speak to us pleasant words, Prophesy illusions. 11 "Get out of the way, turn aside from the path, Let us hear no more about the Holy One of Israel."
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