Why Did God Punish Everyone for What Adam and Eve Did?

Someone asked the question, "why did God punish everyone over what Adam and Eve did in the Garden, rejecting God to follow the lies of the devil?

Here was my answer:

"God knew that the nature of man would choose sin before choosing God. It was the nature of man that God had to change through acceptance of Christ and what He did on that cross. When we became born again the "WAY" we thought changed and we no longer wanted to sin."

"All human beings would do what Adam and Eve did if they were given the same choices. We know this by what people do automatically before they are born again."

"It wasn't the particular sin that God punished Adam and Eve about, it was their propensity to choose sin over God."

The punishment was given to make life more difficult, helping them realize they needed God. Mankind would never choose God if things were easy, they would roll along enjoying life never thinking of Him.

Romans 3:20 "

because by the works of the Law none of mankind will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes knowledge of sin."

It was the sinful heart that God had to deal with, showing mankind just how sinful they are before they will see their need for God and be grateful for what He provided, even the shedding of the blood of His only son Jesus Christ to redeem man.

When anyone says to us God does not love us because of the punishment, be sure and tell them, He died a brutal death and was separated from His Father to save us, it is not possible to have more love than that.

He also made it so easy it's hard for some to believe it would be that easy. All we have to do is confess we are sinners and trust in Christ and He does all the changing and cleansing, after that He takes us home to live with Him in paradise forever.

Couldn't get any easier or more wonderful than that.

Some may say; "but I lost all my friends", or "life seemed to have gotten harder", yes, but these are trials God goes through with us, we are not alone. We must go through the trials to build our faith and trust in Christ. People are lazy when things are easy, God allows us "no pain, no gain" as some would say, in order to build spiritual muscles and wisdom that lasts for eternity.

What we learn through our Spiritual BootCamp will serve us in the Millennium and into the new earth forever. Hallelujah!!!

The Change is Real, Permanent and Done by God

If salvation does not bring a dramatic change in the way we think then it was not authentic, but only a mental decision. When Christ changes us because we want to be changed then it will be so dramatic that others notice something is very different.

2 Corinthians 5:17

"17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, this person is a new creation; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come."

What Does God Say Love Is?

What is love? God tells us in these verses!

1 Corinthians 13:4–8a "Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth."

You Will Know them by their Fruit

Most Christians have been taught more of psychology than they have been taught the trust of the Bible. Ask the Holy Spirit not the culture for wisdom.

If everyone who is born-again would ask the Holy Spirit to show them the truth about everything they have been taught and then search the Word to find out what God says about it, paying attention to His words, they would see that most of what we were taught in the culture was wrong.

1 Corinthians 3:18-20 "18 Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness.” 20 And again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.”…"

The world will think we are foolish when we don't think the way they do, when we think with the mind of Christ.

It is the ways of the world that we have been brain-washed with our entire lives. The culture has perverted all of their ways to follow their feelings and enhance self worship, calling it "self-esteem." No where in the scripture does God call "self-esteem" a good thing. God said we are to esteem others better than ourselves.

Philippians 2:3 "Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem the other better than himself."

Here is what God says "self-esteem" produces.

2 Timothy 3:1-5

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous (ragingly insane) times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."

There are many other principles that have been perverted to bring about the opposite of what God says in His Word.

The teachings on forgiveness is also one of these false worldly teachings.

Notice how we almost never hear a mantra shouting "confess, confess, confess", the emphasis is on forgiveness without confession to guilt the victims into forgiving an unrepentant person. Why are the people not guilted into repenting when they are the perpetrators?

It is easy to answer this, the devil has perverted God's ways to protect offenders while harming victims of offenders.

I knew of a man who came to church, everything out of his mouth was the opposite of what God said in His word. The man was stubborn, rebellious and mean-spirited demeaning and mocking while lying against the Word of God. When we see this we know we are dealing with more than just human stubbornness, it is demonic. Devils often will influence the thinking of people to make them believe they are right and others deserve their rage.

The anger and the rage is the proof there has been no born again experience. God said "you shall know them by their fruit." Do not allow a rager to lure you into fighting with them. Remain silent, remove yourself and leave them for God to handle.

Matthew 7:15-20 "15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them."

Fruit of the Spirit is as follows:

Galatians 5:22-23

"22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law."

Pretenders can appear to have this fruit but will lose all of it as soon as you address problems with their theology or attitudes.

You know who they are if you have enough time spent with them.

Calling on the Name of Jesus Christ

Lots of people who claim to call upon the name of the Lord have false motives, to be accepted by others or to pretend they love God when they only want to appear so.

Matthew 7:21-23 "21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"

We must read all scripture in the context of the rest of the Bible. Words do not mean very much unless they are backed up by a lifestyle change. But not a change that we do, it is the change that Christ does in us when He sees we are sincere in our repentance and desire to be changed by Him.

Then He makes us into a new creation. God will not make into a new creation anyone who does not want to be changed by Him. He will not change anyone who is pretending with selfish motives and only "says" things to be accepted.

Our confession of sinfulness must be according to a "contrite" heart, meaning a heart that has been crushed by the knowledge of just how sinful we are and how much we have hurt the heart of God.

God said "you shall know them by their fruit", which is the fruit of the Holy Spirit which is "love, joy, peace, gentleness, kindness, self-control and longsuffering."

If someone claims to be a Christian but nothing has changed in their life, they still live rebelliously against God's principles and the fruit is missing, then that person was never born-again, as we see in Matthew 7:21-23.

When a person rages at us for pointing out a sin in their life that is harming others, then that person is not born-again. At the very least the person confronted should feel ashamed and desire to clear things up if there has been a misunderstanding. Those who desire to confess their sinfulness to be cleansed by God of that sin will act humble and saddened that they have harmed someone else and especially that they have been disrespectful of God and others.

1 John 1:9

"9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

It is possible that our challenge to a brother or sister who is sinning will be met with resistance, but eventually, if they are saved they will be contrite (crushed) and want to make things right.

When appearances are first and foremost in someone's life far more than obedience to God, we have met a pretender. Authentically born-again believers hate it when they sin, they do not rest until they fix what was wrong and openly confess sin. Their heart is more concerned about hurting God and our witness as believers than they are about their own reputation as a good person.

If you are born-again do not ignore the promptings of the Holy Spirit. He will tell us if we have been falsely accused or if we are guilty of something. We need not wallow in self denigration, we can dismiss a false accusation or confess to be cleansed if we were guilty. The longer a person covers up their own sin and willfully ignores the warnings of others the more hardened their heart becomes.

God will go silent for the believer who hardens their heart, and will not hear any cries from the unbeliever who will not confess their sinfulness to be born-again.

If anyone hardens their heart and refuses to submit to God and His other children, God will further harden it to the point they cannot unharden it anymore. This is a very scary place to be for anyone.

Hebrews 3:7-9 "7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: “Today, if you hear His voice, 8 do not harden your hearts, as you did in the rebellion, in the day of testing in the wilderness, 9 where your fathers tested and tried Me, and for forty years saw My works."

Hebrews 3:12-13

"Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God…'"

The last verse here is warning "Christians" to see if they are really in the faith, those who are not are the pretenders who will depart from the faith having lost their strength to carry on in it because God never changed them into a new creation. They were attempting to do their walk in the flesh because of their unbelief in Christ.

So many people live by "their own words" while negating and ignoring the Words of God. They are stubborn and rebellious determined to do as they please rather than submit to God.

Matthew 4:17

"From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”

Regretting Past Sins is of No Value

Regretfulness about our sinful past after Christ has cleansed us is not a very useful tool in our Christian walk for the born-again believer.

When we have been forgiven of our sins and God remembers them no more against us, continually calling them to mind does nothing useful for us.

Our focus as Christians ought not to be the past regrets but we ought to be focused on the fullness and newness of life Christ gave us when He changed us into a new creation. Romans 6

Moving forward in holiness and service to God will only be hindered by sadness and regret over something that is in the past and will not be changed.

Only the devil resurfaces memories of past sins to debilitate us, keeping us from speaking boldly about sin. There are those who act as though we have no authority to speak against sin because we were once sinners. If this were true then no one would ever have the authority to speak against sin, because all have sinned.

Speaking openly of our past to show others what a wonderful thing Christ did in saving and changing us is a good thing, but if it brings debilitating sadness and regrets it offers no hope for the ones who remain in their sins. Why bother to confess and repent if the agony of the sin torments them for the rest of their lives.

God's forgiveness when we confess is the complete extinguishing of any guilt, there should not be a residue that lingers as we grow in Christ.

Regretting past forgiven sins does not bring any more forgiveness than we had the first time, in fact the regret and sadness over past forgiven sins could very well be a lack of faith that God has forgiven and forgotten. It might also be a fear of man, that others will hold our past forgiven sins against us.

We need not fear what man thinks. No child of God who loves you will hold against you past forgiven sins. If we encounter someone who says they are Christian and want to treat us disrespectfully over our past, then they do not love us, do not understand the forgiveness of God and will not be interested in being a growing thriving companion for us on our journey.

Philippians 3:13-14 - " Brothers, I do not count myself to have attained, but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, 14 I press towards the goal to the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."

I am thankful for the loving Savior Who encourages me with His Word every day. I have encountered "Christians" who love to think evil things about me as though I am still in the past, never having moved beyond that past. I pay no attention to them, I have moved on from them. If they ever repent of their self-righteousness and want to reconcile I would be ready, but until that happens I am going down that path with Christ without them.

The Fruit is the Proof

Matthew 7:21-23

"21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"

Many people in our culture say they are Christians but have no interest in God's Word or if they do, they have no interest in understanding it through the teaching of the Holy Spirit. They interpret the Words of God the way they want to believe them. They do this in human relationships too.

Most people interpret the Bible in our day according to their own personal traditions not necessarily what God was teaching in His Word. They interpret the Bible according to their desired belief and what other teachers are telling them, not based on prayer and seeking the Holy Spirit for wisdom to hear from Him.

John 16:13-14

"13However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. 14He will glorify Me by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you."

Those who depend on human beings to teach them without regard to whether the Holy Spirit is involved will have only their feeble human understanding based on the traditions of men to fall back on. Since the Holy Spirit is held in such low regard these days the church is falling into apostasy.

We know the level of disregard for the Holy Spirit by the blank looks and sometimes groans when we say we will wait to hear from the Holy Spirit.

I have heard often people taking scriptures out of context to make the words say what they want them to say and not what God meant by His words.

Much of the understanding of modern Christianity is based on psychology, a system that was spawned from Darwinism. Treating people as if they are nothing more than another animal causes the scientists to study the animals and think that human beings operate the same way since, in the scientist's mind, people are nothing more than a higher species of beasts.

Thankfully not all scientists think this way, some are born again and understand that the authentic science they study in nature proves the Bible and the existence of God. They know that human beings respond to things far differently from the animal kingdom.

In order to understand human beings, we must read the Word of God and pray for the Holy Spirit to give us wisdom. The Bible is full of wonderful wisdom and examples in life that show us the nature of human beings, their responses good and bad to everything.

Jesus Christ died for the entire world, all the world had to do was trust in Him and they would have an incredible eternity. When He was on earth Christ healed people and lived in poverty along with most of the world at that time. All He desired was the love from them, then He would be all we need giving us an inheritance so great it cannot be imagined by mankind. We have His Word that promises us this inheritance beyond our human imagination, and yet, most of mankind will reject Him.

Attempting to explain trust in the Holy Spirit today to the modern day narcissists brings division, not because we do something wrong but because most who say they are Christians are apostates and have never experienced hearing from the Holy Spirit.

Mankind is so stubborn they would rather believe they must depend on themselves than surrender to Christ Who will ultimately give us more than we could ever imagine.

Irrational stubbornness is a deceiver, making most believe they can do better than God in this life and they will affect our own salvation in the next.

Even those who say they are saved by grace and cannot work their way to heaven will act as though their good deeds make them special giving them a foot into the kingdom. Saying something is far different from believing and following. There is no true belief if there is no following what we "say" we believe.

God says we will know our brothers and sister in Christ by their fruit. It is alright and even commanded to challenge one another to see if we are truly saved or just pretenders wanting to be a part of a "feelings oriented" club.

Galatians 5:22-23

"22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law."

If this fruit of the Holy Spirit is not present, then there is no salvation, it is the evidence of a life changed by Christ, the very character qualities of Christ.

Matthew 15:7-8 "…7 You hypocrites! Isaiah prophesied correctly about you: 8 ‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 9 They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’ ”…"

The warnings from God are clear, to make no friends with those who pretend to be Christians but deny Him in their actions. If their actions are contrary to their words, they are either infantile Christians who still need to learn, or they are not born again at all and never have been so.