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Friday, November 20, 2015
Can a Narcissist Be Saved
An excellent article on the state of the narcissist. http://www.luke173ministries.org/466808
Devils Use Their Mouths
Narcissists don't engage in real conversation of give and take to enjoy another person, their aim is to win, even when what they say doesn't make sense. Before they hear you out they are already forming in their mind the way they will refute you. It isn't about refuting information, it is about negating the target.
2 Timothy 3:21-5, Luke 6:28!
Expressing an opposing viewpoint with a narcissists is the same as firing the first shot over the bow of a battleship. Aggression is the only weapon in the arsenal of a narcissist.
Someone who expects to be able to reason with a narcissist on any level at all, has not yet encountered one. There is no reasoning with a narcissist, they love to fight, while truth doesn't matter very much, only winning. They count themselves as having won when their target cowers away in tears and complete defeat.
Narcissists hate to be interrupted but are famous for talking so long the target can't seem to wedge in words to be able to enter the one sided conversation, if one could call it a conversation. The tactic is to cause the target to become so frustrated they give up, affording the narcissists the victory by default.
The more covert narcissists use grunts and groans while you are speaking to indicate their complete disapproval of you as a person. They feel a sense of power if they can make their victim feel insignificant and foolish.
While I don't understand why a "Christian" would act this way and have many times wondered if they were ever born again, I am quite sure that engaging with them is of little value at all.
The biggest challenge to the believer is to be able to discern the narcissist tactics to be able to assess whether or not they will continue the relationship. There have been a few times in my life I have had to make the choice to remove myself from those who have only one thing in mind and that is to be more special than everyone else.
Perhaps loving these people from afar is the best course of action. We can pray for them, remain calm when we have to encounter them while making a hasty and polite get away when the opportunity arises.
Our goal as a believer is to grow in holiness, speak the truth in love and move on when we see the listener refuses us.
Ephesians 4:15 and Matthew 10:14
May the Lord Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit guide our every action in the midst of the battle against unseen spiritual entities. We know that our fight isn't against people, it is against the devils that use the mouths of people.
Ephesians 6:12
2 Timothy 3:21-5, Luke 6:28!
Expressing an opposing viewpoint with a narcissists is the same as firing the first shot over the bow of a battleship. Aggression is the only weapon in the arsenal of a narcissist.
Someone who expects to be able to reason with a narcissist on any level at all, has not yet encountered one. There is no reasoning with a narcissist, they love to fight, while truth doesn't matter very much, only winning. They count themselves as having won when their target cowers away in tears and complete defeat.
Narcissists hate to be interrupted but are famous for talking so long the target can't seem to wedge in words to be able to enter the one sided conversation, if one could call it a conversation. The tactic is to cause the target to become so frustrated they give up, affording the narcissists the victory by default.
The more covert narcissists use grunts and groans while you are speaking to indicate their complete disapproval of you as a person. They feel a sense of power if they can make their victim feel insignificant and foolish.
While I don't understand why a "Christian" would act this way and have many times wondered if they were ever born again, I am quite sure that engaging with them is of little value at all.
The biggest challenge to the believer is to be able to discern the narcissist tactics to be able to assess whether or not they will continue the relationship. There have been a few times in my life I have had to make the choice to remove myself from those who have only one thing in mind and that is to be more special than everyone else.
Perhaps loving these people from afar is the best course of action. We can pray for them, remain calm when we have to encounter them while making a hasty and polite get away when the opportunity arises.
Our goal as a believer is to grow in holiness, speak the truth in love and move on when we see the listener refuses us.
Ephesians 4:15 and Matthew 10:14
May the Lord Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit guide our every action in the midst of the battle against unseen spiritual entities. We know that our fight isn't against people, it is against the devils that use the mouths of people.
Ephesians 6:12
We Must Have the Holy Spirit
Matthew 22:1-14 KJV
[1] And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, [2] The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, [3] And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. [4] Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marria...ge. [5] But they made light of it , and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: [6] And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them . [7] But when the king heard thereof , he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. [8] Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. [9] Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. [10] So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. [11] And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: [12] And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. [13] Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. [14] For many are called, but few are chosen.
[1] And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, [2] The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, [3] And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. [4] Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marria...ge. [5] But they made light of it , and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: [6] And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them . [7] But when the king heard thereof , he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. [8] Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. [9] Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. [10] So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. [11] And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: [12] And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. [13] Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. [14] For many are called, but few are chosen.
Matthew 7:21-23
"21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"
"21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"
Do Not Let the Enemy Rule
When we are maligned and attacked, whether in covert or
overt ways by the enemy, we know that God has allowed it, while using it to
grow us in His grace. When we see that
the devil uses people, we can focus our attention on the spiritual battle
rather than the people Satan is using.
3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.
4 And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
5 But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
6 But he must ask in faith without any doubting, for the one who doubts is like the surf of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind.
7 For that man ought not to expect that he will receive anything from the Lord, 8 being a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
9 But the brother of humble circumstances is to glory in his high position;
10 and the rich man is to glory in his humiliation, because like flowering grass he will pass away.
11 For the sun rises with a scorching wind and withers the grass; and its flower falls off and the beauty of its appearance is destroyed; so too the rich man in the midst of his pursuits will fade away.
12 Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him."
Ephesians 5:12 "For our struggle is not against
flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world
forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the
heavenly places."
James 1:2-13
"2 Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you
encounter various trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.
4 And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
5 But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
6 But he must ask in faith without any doubting, for the one who doubts is like the surf of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind.
7 For that man ought not to expect that he will receive anything from the Lord, 8 being a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
9 But the brother of humble circumstances is to glory in his high position;
10 and the rich man is to glory in his humiliation, because like flowering grass he will pass away.
11 For the sun rises with a scorching wind and withers the grass; and its flower falls off and the beauty of its appearance is destroyed; so too the rich man in the midst of his pursuits will fade away.
12 Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him."
The key to victory in our own soul is to know the
standards and principles of Christ, lean on Him and never taking seriously what
evil people do to us or behind our backs. God wants to make us so strong that
we are unaffected by the strategies of the devil, while remaining true to
God. The number one tactic of the devil
is to unnerve us, so much so that we end up acting in ungodly ways to defend
ourselves. We need to leave way for God
to defend us, He is much more effective than we could ever be, He has the
ability to look straight into someone's heart, knowing exactly what is needed.
Romans 12:19 "Never take your own revenge, beloved,
but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, "VENGEANCE IS
MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord."
Once the Lord has used the ungodly to test us, He will
then at some point direct us when to remove ourselves or He will remove the
evil doer who torments us. Some people
must go their entire lives enduring hardness on the part of an unbeliever,
however, God can keep each one strong in the midst of it all. Others are instructed to remove themselves as
we see in 2 Timothy 3:1-5. Other times
God chases away those who would seek to malign our walk with Christ.
Job 8:20 ""Lo, God will not reject a man of
integrity, Nor will He support the evildoers."
Romans 12:21 "Do not be overcome by evil, but
overcome evil with good."
When we maintain our walk with the Lord through prayer,
obedience and attention to His Word, we can walk in the midst of this mess on
earth, without it changing our soul, in integrity and kindness, no matter what
anyone else is doing. Christ lives in
believers, no matter what anyone does to us in the physical realm, they can
never touch the Spirit within us.
Romans 8:13 "for if you are living according to the
flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of
the body, you will live."
We must never allow another human being who is evil, to
cause us to act in ungodly ways.
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