Rejecting the cultural Christianity I grew up with to embrace and enjoy a relationship with Jesus Christ. A place to come and share thoughts about almost anything. Especially things of the Lord. Please no Anonymous posts, I enjoy knowing who is writing to me.
Tuesday, November 1, 2022
The Stinging Scorpions of the Triblaiton
Anyone who is seeing aliens, strange spacecraft and weird manifestations, or even visions of dead people is experiencing the antics of demons.
When we see someone acting irrationally without regard for others we are watching the influence of demonic forces.
In the Garden with Eve, the devil placed in her mind thoughts and ideas to turn her against God, this is happening today regularly as the demons speak lies into the minds of those who have no defenses against them.
One man saw spiders crawling all over him, biting at him as he attempted feverishly to brush them off there were too many to combat. He felt the bites and felt the crawling, but the spiders were not really there. Others watching him could not see them, only the one who had taken the LSD could see and feel them as though they were real.
This is also why I believe the scorpions are torments of a spiritual nature unseen by those who are not submitted to the antichrist.
I am convinced that in the last days of the tribulation the "stinging scorpions" will be demons tormenting mankind for five months. Demons have the ability to play tricks in our minds making us believe something terrible is happening when those who are not going through do not see it.
Devils have the ability to make us feel pain and to cause illness in those who are possessed by them.
All we need to prove this is the story of Job, God gave the devil permission to torment Job but he could not kill him. Job's experience of illness was beyond anything anyone else has been through.
Those who become born-again during the tribulation will not be tormented by these scorpions, my belief is that they cannot even see them, since they are spiritual illusions in the minds of those who are not saved. They will have physical ailments caused by the demons, the horrid stinging sensation of scorpions, and for many months.
Revelation 7:3
"3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”
To read the account of the end-times attack of scorpions that have bodies of horses and faces like men go to Revelation 9. If this does not frighten someone to trust in Christ to be removed in the rapture, I surely don't know what will wake them up.
Revelation 9:5, "They were allowed to torment them for five months, but not to kill them, and their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it stings someone."
Revelation 9:4 tells us that the scorpions are only allowed to torment non-believers.
Imagine being stung and tormented for five months without relief?
We see the work of the devil in nearly everything with everyone these days, and yet.....the worst is yet to come.
Those who have not yet trusted in Christ through confessing their sinfulness need to do it soon before Christ takes out His church. Be cleansed by Christ today to become a new creation and avoid the terrible tribulation that is to come soon upon the world.
Monday, October 31, 2022
To Agree is a Command from God
God also commands us to agree, it is a command. The Holy Spirit does not tell two people two different things, He teaches truth to every born-again believer who is seeking Him. If we are all seeking Christ then we will all agree and all be learning. This is not a compromise of the word of God, it's seeking God and all hearing from the Holy Spirit.
Amos 3:3
“Do two walk together, unless they have agreed to meet?
"See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ."
2 Corinthians 6:16
"What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."
The problem in our culture is that most "cultural Christians" are not seeking God and are dedicated to a humanistic gospel based on man, not God.
If you have a friend who is not interested in the Word but calls themselves a Christian then it is time to walk away and pray for them.
If you have a friend who is angry at the mention of the word of God then it is not possible for one who diligently follows Christ to be friends with them.
On questionable things, we can ask God and allow others to disagree without arguing or fighting. On man-made rules that God never commanded we are free to ignore them. However, if a brother is offended by a particular thing because of their weak faith, then we can refrain from that thing so as not to be a stumbling block to them. Distractions are many, no need to add what we believe is a minor matter.
If a brother does not eat meat I will not give up meat in my home but when that brother comes to my home for dinner I will not serve meat. The meat would be an unnecessary distraction.
Our goal as a believer is not to make other people do what we do, but to do ourselves what pleases Christ. Christ is pleased when we do not make an issue out of food, or styles of clothing if they are modest.
1 Corinthians 1:10-11
"I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment. For it has been reported to me by Chloe's people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers."
A Discussion about Worship and the One-man-paid pastor system
AuthorGwendolyn WehageFrank Jenkins
When nearly every "pastor" who is seen as the leader has been trained in the seminaries where they teach cultural church practices you will find most of them following what they were taught, much of it based on effectiveness more than scripture. And, today the seminaries are teaching acceptance of cultic practices not realizing they are counter to the Word of God.
Also when Paul said; "all Cretans are lazy gluttons he was reflecting what the culture was like. Probably not every single Cretan was lazy and gluttonous, but since most were God warned the people about the culture as a whole.
Generalizations are understood to be just that "generalizations" not all-inclusive.
When we accept the wrong on the basis that "not all are like that" then we are giving a pass to the wrong things in a culture, allowing it to grow only brings more wrong things.
When we accept the wrong on the basis that "not all are like that" then we are giving a pass to the wrong things in a culture, allowing it to grow only brings more wrong things.
The entire one-man pastor system is against the instruction of God given by Paul in the new testament. Any time a system violates the directions of God it does not matter if it is "working out" which we see has not worked, then the system grows more intensely unbiblical and disobedient.
God gave us the criteria for an elder and that there should be a plurality of leadership, we need not do our own thing, thinking we can do better than God commanded.
Man always wants a leader they can see rather than trusting God, the Holy Spirit they cannot see.
Ed Kassar
Frank Jenkins I think the main point is worship.
How do people actually worship?
"By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name." (Hebrews 13:15) However with the one man ministry every aspect of true Christian worship is missing.
The hymns are chosen before hand.
The chosen leaders are all who can give praise.
The Holy Spirit is silenced under the thoughts of the leaders.
Yes there are men and women who are gifted, yet those gifts also are given to the members of the Church as well. However gifts need to be applied in the proper place. Women are instructed to be quite in the Church, however children ministry, women's groups and woman Bible studies,... are places they can use those gifts. If not hindered under the clergy laity system as normal.
The Bible and its teaching are for all men and women to understand and walk in the soundness of the Word of GOD, not just a few.
The clergy laity system has destroyed these Godly principles shown in Scripture.
Ed Kassar
Frank Jenkins brother I'm not disagreeing with you about gifted people. Yet I would suggest letting the Holy Spirit do HIS job in the Body of believers.
"But when *he* is come, the Spirit of truth, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but whatsoever he shall hear he shall speak; and he will announce to you what is coming.He shall glorify me, for he shall receive of mine and shall announce [it] to you. All things that the Father has are mine; on account of this I have said that he receives of mine and shall announce [it] to you."
(John 16:13-15)
Ed Kassar
"And to the angel of the assembly in Laodicea write: These things says the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God: I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot; I would thou wert cold or hot. Thus because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I am about to spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and am grown rich, and have need of nothing, and knowest not that thou art the wretched and the miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked; I counsel thee to buy of me gold purified by fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white garments, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness may not be made manifest; and eye-salve to anoint thine eyes, that thou mayest see. I rebuke and discipline as many as I love; be zealous therefore and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and am knocking; if any one hear my voice and open the door, I will come in unto him and sup with him, and he with me. He that overcomes, to him will I give to sit with me in my throne; as I also have overcome, and have sat down with my Father in his throne.He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies.(Rev 3:14-22)
"I am about to spue thee out of my mouth." The way the church makes Jesus feel, Nauseous.
HE stands at the door. What a harrorable state for the church to be in. Jesus is not in it but outside waiting for a open door.
This is why, I'm concerned.
Ed Kassar
Frank Jenkins I highly doubt revival.
Many assume that we are living before the time of the "spanking up" rapture. What we find before the LORDS return is a departure from the truth, and the true Church. Yes religion may flourish as we find that there will be a one world religion upcoming as the antichrist appears. So I can only assume that there will be many false faith appearing in days to come.
Frank Jenkins
Ed Kassar Again that is not the case in all churches!
Hyms and songs of worship all Glorify God and uplift the soul!
Spontaneus Worship is also needed!
There are many spirit filled churches!
But in the case of Women they are according to Apostle Paul are not to Teach or assurp athority over men!
But they are a Blessed in Womens Ministries and Childrens Ministry God always has a place for Spiritual Women!
GODS Church is Still flourishing and I believe Revival is coming!
Frank Jenkins
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AuthorGwendolyn WehageFrank Jenkins The things you describe are human traditions you were accustomed to, this does not make them alright merely because you like them or they seem right. We must always defer to the Scriptures asking the Holy Spirit to guide our thinking.
Mark 7:13 "13 Thus you nullify the word of God by the tradition you have handed down. And you do so in many such matters.”
Many years ago I began praying that God would show me only truth. That He would open my eyes to the humanistic traditions that were in the church so that I would be obedient to Him. It was astounding all the things He revealed to me through His Word and the Holy Spirit that were counter to the teachings of Christ. Anyone who prays for His truth will find themselves counter to the Christian culture of our day.
Frank Jenkins
Ed Kassar I Understand your Concerns but God will Guide each individual that seeks him in the spirit and puts the word of God close to his Heart!
The Church is US. The building is a place to Gather share ,Pray , Hear Gods word and Worship !
It is each Person who must Seek Gods Truth and Give Praise and Worship to God!
The Apostles Admonished Churches and Praised followers in the Church!
We must Not fixate on Organizations as much as Individuals being Deciples of Christ each one being an Example in our Walks and in Churches we attend!
We as Deciples answer to Christ and must Focus on His Message!
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AuthorGwendolyn WehageThe moment we give a pass to one tradition it will lead to a mindset of setting aside God's Word for other traditions that work against God and the gospel.
AuthorGwendolyn WehageEd Kassar Amen!!!
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AuthorGwendolyn WehageFrank Jenkins God will never guide a believer to do anything against His own Word. The Holy Spirit is the very essence of His Own Word, He will always lead the believer to do His Will as instructed in the word of God. There is no new revelation for man to draw from, it is all in the Bible and clearly laid out for us to follow.
John 14:15 "15 If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Advocate to be with you forever."
John 16:13-14 "13 However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. 14 He will glorify Me by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you.…"
The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth, when men lead us they are sharing the Word of God as given in the Bible, not their own ideas or methods, but the truth of God's Word. Accepting man's way thinking it can be as good as the Scripture is adding to the Scriptures.
Proverbs 30:6
"Do not add to His words
Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar."
To use our own traditions to worship God is disobedience, it doesn't matter if they appear to work well, if they are disobedience then they are trusting in man not God.
Sunday, October 30, 2022
Worshipers Filled with the Holy Spirit
The only "worship leader" in the gathering of believers should be the Holy Spirit. If a group is using human beings as the worship leaders" then there is a humanistic bent to the group.
God never commanded the church to appoint leaders over the worship other than Jesus Christ.
If anyone is following a person they are not following Jesus Christ. There is only one mediator between the believer and the Father and that is Jesus Christ.
1 Timothy 2:5 "5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave Himself as a ransom for all—the testimony that was given at just the right time."
Our husbands are not the mediators between us and God, wives are not mediators, church elders are not mediators, no one in the church is a mediator between the believers and God the Father, only Christ is the mediator.
If anyone is following a man they cannot be following Christ.
The Holy Spirit brings glory to God the Father, human leaders bring glory to themselves and to others, not to God.
John 16:13-15 "…13 However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. 14 He will glorify Me by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you. 15 Everything that belongs to the Father is Mine. That is why I said that the Spirit will take from what is Mine and disclose it to you.…"
When we come together to worship every word, every prayer and every action should glorify Jesus Christ, not ourselves. We come together to speak of Christ, to pray in His name, to speak of His attributes and what He did on the cross. Anything else in the gathering detracts from Him and elevates the world and self.
Believers are not to come together to vent their political views, pray for their own needs, or to focus on anything in the world. We come together in worship to speak of Christ, glorify Him, and seek His Face. Today's churches do not worship as God commanded, they are coming together, as a rule, to glorify themselves and beg for their own stuff.
Teaching is another matter, this is where we get into the deeper principles of God's Word, His promises, and His purposes, it also is not a time to vent about politics or commiserate over problems of the world.
We take our troubles to God all the time, in prayer meetings, in our homes when the purpose is to petition God, this is separate and different from the time of worship.
Putting the Lord's Supper at the end of a gathering just to say we did it without spending time in prayer to glorify Him, expound on His Word and praise Him for His Own sake, not to do anything else but worship about Him.
The American church and perhaps the churches in the world today to put on a self-oriented time of venting, begging for our needs, and praising self. It is not the worship God speaks about in His Word.
I once heard a preacher praise the gathering from the pulpit on how good they were all doing. Frankly, it disgusted me, there out to be weeping and solemnness in a church gathering, no one was so perfect during the week that they would be praising themselves rather than convicted over their failures during the week to be cleansed of their flaws and failures.
Worship toward God is nothing about us, it's all about Him.
In conclusion;, the time of worship is all about Christ, all about Him and nothing else, this is worship.
The American church views God as a genie in a bottle to do our bidding, mostly to make us feel more spiritual and as though we have done our "obligation" by attending the building they call a church.
Is it any wonder the church as a whole has become apostate? People do not know what worship is nor do they seem to care. I notice too that most Christians do not speak of Christ even in the gathering, they let the "leaders" do it and only to entertain rather than equip the saints to go from the gathering to be strong in their witness for Christ in their communities.
As one preacher said it well, we have the pulpit people and the pew people. The pulpit people elevate themselves because of their education and the pew people believe everything they say without question, even reviling anyone who says something different from the pulpit person.
In the description of worship in the Bible there are no "pew people and pulpit people." Everyone worships and the Holy Spirit is the leaders.
Read 1 Corinthians 14:26-38
"26 What is the outcome then, brothers and sisters? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. All things are to be done for edification.
27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, it must be by two or at the most three, and each one in turn, and one is to interpret;
28 but if there is no interpreter, he is to keep silent in church; and have him speak to himself and to God.
29 Have two or three prophets speak, and have the others pass judgment.
30 But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, then the first one is to keep silent.
31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted;
32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets;
33 for God is not a God of confusion, but of peace.
As in all the churches of the saints,
34 the women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says.
35 If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.
36 Or was it from you that the word of God first went out? Or has it come to you only?
37 If anyone thinks that he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment.
38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.'"
There is no mention here or anywhere else that we should have a one-man paid pastor to lead everything. The idea of the one-man pastor system came from the Catholic church many years ago, the entire hierarchy system was man's concoction, not God's.
God intended for the Holy Spirit to be leading everything according to His design.
The one-man pastor system has done away with the leading of the Holy Spirit as well as denying that Christ speaks in the heart of every believer.
It is human nature to be lazy and just follow a man rather than seek Jesus Christ Who dwells in believers. It is easier to follow a man they can see than to follow Christ Who is unseen.
The modern church is in a colossal mess because of the lie the devil has spoken, that is that gatherings must have paid men educated by human colleges to lead the gatherings. Trusting in the Holy Spirit has been mocked and demeaned as people are led to the slaughter by other power-seeking men who love their notoriety.
We are living in a time of great apostasy, we will not be able to find men of God who are not sucked into this worldly man-centered gospel according to their own mindsets absent of the working of the Holy Spirit.
We must remain, faithful, just know that this faithfulness to God's Word will cause division and will isolate us from those who love their worldly man-centered worship. We agonize in our Spirit over the foolishness and lies that are coming from pulpit people, knowing this is one of the signs of the end of the age.
Luke 18:9-14 "9 Now He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt:
10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
11 The Pharisee stood and began praying this in regard to himself: ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, crooked, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
12 I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.’
13 But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to raise his eyes toward heaven, but was beating his chest, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, the sinner!’
14 I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other one; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”"
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